Results

 

 

To get back to where you came from it the back buton.

 

Below is the results for the first twelve months when we released the Stop at a winner Bot.

Some of these approaches have worked and some have not.

My favoured strategy was 1B however even though making 816 points in the 12 months, the last six months it lost 200 points.

The AWT strategy 3 made 250 points, and had no stop losses, showed 25% Return on Investments.

Strategy 2, 3.95 plus strategy made 372 points profit, and showed a 7% return, it had a horrible spell in the middle that gave away all the profit, and then rebuilt.

The next 12 months we are doing Martin's Strategy, for both Australia and UK.

So they will be shown shortly.

 

This is a BOT ( betting software) that offers the option to bet Back Market and Lay Market, and on every horse race, whether it be Thoroughbred, or Harness racing (Australia and New Zealand), as long as it is covered by Betfair.

Although the STOP A AT WINNER (Profit) is not a new concept, this bot offers a different aproach.

First and foremost is the software will bet for you to the simple instructions that you give it, it will also stake to recover losses and hit the required profit.

It can do this in the Backing market (Win or Place). In the win and place market, you can bet the Favourite only. So you really have the stats running in your favor.

And in the Lay Market you can lay the favour in the Win or Place market.

Plus you can set the field numbers that you will allow the bot to bet on, we use 5 to 20 runners in the backing option, but this is entirely up to you.

You get to set the odds that you want to bet on, we use 2.5 to upwards in the Backing win market (But 3.00 PLUS is better and I recommend you use 3.00 to 10.00), but what you set is upto you.

And the Lay Market we do 2.00 to 2.50 odds, but once again it is entirely up to you.

Also, you get the option to restart automatically, once you hit your profit target if you wish, or you may not want to do that, once again everyone is different.

The Profit target is an important target obviously, and equally also the loss target.

If you put the Profit Target at 2.00 then you would want at least 100.00 as the loss stop, for backing and if using Laying option Profit Target 2.00, stop loss at 20

You also get to select what countries you want to operate the software on. A word of warning, some countries are very so at declaring the results, this does stop the bot moving to the next race, so you are to keep that in mind.

Yes, when races are close or overlap either because of delays or results delays, you will miss some races, this is to be understood, you can not expect to be betting every race.

If you follow harness racing in Australia and other countries covered by Betfair then you can use this software on them also, as the bot has the Harness option, all you need to do is active that and you are then able to bet these type of races.

 

OH.. NO, I hate the staking plan...

Recovery staking plans, ONLY negative comments???

Read on.

If you are the sort of person who can not put aside a betting bank, then quiet frankly DON'T BET, as you will never win in the long run, if you are not going to have a business approach.

Look, we use a recovery plan (don't confuse it to martingale staking as it is NOT), we recommend that you use only Favourites that have odds of 3.00 and above, as this will control the recovery staking management.

Now we don't recommend you follow the recovery plan with not top limit.

We recommend that you use as a maximum of 1:50 for UK racing, and 1:100 for Australian Racing.

So if you are betting UK Racing.,Targeting £2.00 a winner Profit, then your Stop Loss target is £100, (WARNING: You will go over that amount, as it has to be triggered, so keep that in mind.)

And Australian Racing Targeting $2.00 a winner then your stop loss would be $200.00.

Now below is graphs showing the returns you would have made from 5th Feb to the 13th May, 2015

If you look at the bottom of the graph you will see 10 through to 100, this is the different stop loss amounts, and the PROFIT is how much you would have made using the stop losses.

This is with a £2.00 a winner target.

So if you £10 stop Loss (Not recommended) then your profit is £66.06

If you used a £50.00 stop loss, then your profit is £296.62

And a £100 stop Loss,then a profit of £533.00

So you can see that you can set the risk you are comfortable with.

REMEMBER: Your Stop Loss IS NOT YOUR BANK. If you have a 1,000 bank, divide that by 4, so 200 is your stop loss NO MORE.

You can of course use less, but no more that a quarter of your BANK as a stop loss.

What can we gather from the above chart?

If you are over cautious, you will not get the profit growth the software can deliver, so by all means start low, but not to low, 50 is a good start if you can not stomach the 100 (you must have the bank first).

 

 

UK Formula (1:50 ratio).

Bank Total: 500

Divide by 4: Equals 125 this is the new stop Loss.

New target (1:50 ratio) is divide 50 into the stop loss, 125/50= 2.50 is your new Target per winner, so you would change your settings in the software to reflect those numbers.

Repeat every week or month on whatever you decide is the Bank Review time.

Australian Formula (1:100 ratio)

Bank Total 500

Divide by 4: Equals 125 this is the new stop Loss.

New target (1:100 ratio) is divide 100 into the stop loss, 125/100= 1.25 is your new Target per winner, so you would change your settings in the software to reflect those numbers.

Repeat every week or month on whatever you decide is the Bank Review time.

Our results however are on a £2.00 and $1.00 targets, we would have made a lot more if we were increasing the targets.

DON'T USE THIS STRATEGY, as it has taken a turn and is not PERFORMING... DON'T USE IT on AUSTRALIA..

These were the last twelve months strategies.

OK, will this software suit you?

1. Do you have access to Betfair? Even if only Backing?

2. Do you like to Bet UK and or Australian Racing?

3. Want to Bet but are time poor or lazy ( don't want to spend hours in front of the PC?)

4. Like to make a profit, on small or larger stakes?

5. Like Laying and Or Backing, either win or place?

If the answer to these 5 questions is YES or Even Maybe.... you are qualified to READ ON.

Below are 3 different approaches that can be used with this software, we will summarize them now, and you can see what may suit you.

These are all backing strategies in the WIN market, you can use Laying, I have not tested laying to any great extent so I can not show you figures like I can on the Backing.

 

Strategy 1B

This is the one I use personally

Backing in the UK Racing Market (No Irish) I have not included any Irish racing, solely because the results can be slow and also clash with UK races, and as the software needs the result to be known before it moves to the next race this can be an issue.

So I prefer to do UK races only. I know we have clients using both and doing well, I just dont have figures to support the Irish Racing. (You can open the software twice and do Irish on One and UK on the other if you wish)

In this strategy we are betting every favourite at a set time before the start of the race (I use 25 second) you can chose you own time, but don't make it too far from the official off.

And the odds I used in this strategy is 3.00 to 10.00.

Ratio is 1:50 for the Stop Loss, so if Target is £1.00 profit per winner then the Stop Loss is £50.00

As at Day 78 it is showing £373.00 profit on a £100.00 Bank.

 

Strategy 2. UK

Backing UK Racing, except we are betting only Favourites that are 3.95 or higher.

All the other settings are the same as strategy 1.

The benefit of this strategy is that the draw down on the bank is less, so if you have a smaller bank you can start with this method, it is a slower growth, but also less bets. Longer losing sequences do hurt the bank, the biggest draw down is only 62.00, but mostly between 6 and 15.

 

Strategy 3. UK All Weather Tracks Only.

This is on the AWT (All Weather tracks only ) Lingfield, Chelmsford City, Kempton, Wolverhampton.

We are betting Favourites that are 3.95 or higher many benefits as in strategy 2.

 

 

Strategy 1b (Best Performing One)

This is the Option I personally used for the 12 months, I have now changed to Martin's Strategy.

UK Win Only Using 3.00 odds and upwards:

This is on a £2.00 target, 10 in the stop loss chart equals £10 stop loss.

Above is a chart showing the different Stop Loss Targets, 10 pound shows that over the 3 months you would have made 66 pounds.

100 stop loss shows 533.00 pounds.

Many people start with a tight (small stop loss) and dont make much profit, If you are looking at a small stop loss at least go to 50 pounds

at least that gives you 300 pounds profit.

 

 


Strategy 2

 

If you want to use Favourites 3.95 and over, less bets, less out.

 


Strategy 3

 

All Weather Tracks Only.

Odds 3.95 and upwards.


Strategy 4.

We are only looking for $1.00 a winner here, and with a stop loss of 100.

DON'T USE THIS STRATEGY, as it has taken a turn and is not PERFORMING... DON'T USE IT on AUSTRALIA..

Australian Racing.

 

This is from the 5th Feb, 2015 to 30th June, 2015

betting all races in Australia Only (no harness).

Where the Favourite is 3.00 or over.

 

As you can see if you use a small stop loss the returns are limited, the 100 we set is not far of the best return.

 

 

 

DON'T USE THIS STRATEGY, as it has taken a turn and is not PERFORMING... DON'T USE IT on AUSTRALIA..

 

To get back to where you came from it the back buton.

 

 

 


 

 

 

To get back to where you came from it the back buton.

 

 

 

Strategy 1

We are not recording these anymore as we are using Strategy 1B, the returns are far better.

We strongly recommend you use 3.00 plus for the backing approach.

 

This is UK Only Results

Odds 2.50 to 10 Win Only

12.98% Return on Every pound bet!!

From 5th Feb 2015 to 22nd April, 2015

In 78 Days, on the settings below 271% Bank Growth.

Bank Of £100: As At 22nd April: £371.00

These are the settings we used on UK Racing and Backing Only Option.

 

 

 

Changing The Odds Makes big differences.


 

Martin's Strategy.

Martin turns a £350 Bank to £1,200 in 92 Days.

Below is the email, I got from Martin a very happy user of Stop At A Winner for Horses...

OK, here are the setting as to his email.

UK Racing only (Martin does do the odd Irish meeting).

First of he starts with the bank figure, and splits it into 50% Backing bank, and 50% Laying back.

Let's keep it easy in the example. We will say your bank is £1000, so start of week one.

And your Laying bank is £500.00

Your Backing bank is £500

OK, to find out our target (Stop at a Profit) figure.

Lay Tab settings. (Please Note new settings as at 13-9-2015)

Lay, the stop loss is 750, so that means, on a 500 bank we have to adjust the figure to 500 as we don't have 750 in the lay bank.

So our Stop loss has to be 500, so on that figure it means our Target figure is 500 divide by 750 = .66p

So for the first week, we have .66p in the Stop at a Profit Box, and 500 in the stop at a loss box.

At the end of each week, you divide your bank in half and repeat the process to get your stop loss and staop at a profit figure.

Odds Setting: Lay- 2.00 to 3.20

Back Tab settings. (Please Note new settings as at 13-9-2015)

Back, the stop loss is 500, so that means, on a 500 bank we set our stop loss at 500.

So our Stop loss is 500, so on that figure it means our Target figure is 500 divide by 500 = 1.00p

So for the first week, we have 1.00p in the Stop at a Profit Box, and 50 in the stop at a loss box.

At the end of each week, you divide your bank in half and repeat the process to get your stop loss and stop at a profit figure.

Back Setting: Back- 2.80 to 5.00

Here are his results.

 

So we have given back the last 5 weeks of gains.

But still a very health gain over the 6 months. Bank now at £1,255 less start of £350

So £960.00 Profit from £350 in 6 Months!

Thanks so much Martin, for sharing and updating the results, I am using your Lay strategy, along with strategy 1B

If you have a strategy working in the SAAW Bot, please drop me an email so we can share it.

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Michael and Steve

 

 

 

 

 

To get back to where you came from it the back buton.

 

 

We did a trial with Australia and UK Racing, you can see that on the link below.

 

You Can See The Trial that has NOW finished Here

 

 


Here is what the users are saying....

 

 

 

 

What to Know More?

Click Here To Download the Manual. (Pdf)

The manual is also available in the software.

 

 

 

 

 

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